Is it real that during II world war some german officers ordered GLOVES WITH HUMAN SKIN?

Yes, it's very true. People would order lamp shades, gloves, scarves, and various other materials.





These were made from the skin of captives that were held in concentration camps. I've listened to a woman's first hand account of her experience in a concentration camp. She said that there were rooms in her camp that were set aside for the storage of human skin. They would actually make surviving Jews go into these rooms with fresh bodies and skin them to add to the stockpile. Once they were finished, these bodies would be taken to another room where they would be dismembered and the body parts would be used for other morbid purposes. (She told us of one man who had ordered a foot to use as a pen holder.)





She also mentioned that some of these people weren't dead when they took their skin...





And to respond to Jean-Luc, it hasn't been discredited by anyone with ANY sort of merit whatsoever. Even if it had, I have spoken with survivors of the Holocaust who told me of these things from their PERSONAL experience. I'm pretty sure that trumps the "enlightened" reports of some idiot who never even lived during that time.

Is it real that during II world war some german officers ordered GLOVES WITH HUMAN SKIN?
Jesus, I hope not.


Pretty sick stuff.
Reply:And lampshades made from it as well as other things too horrible to mention.
Reply:Yuk!!!.. hope not!
Reply:It would not surprise me !, i do know that they made lampshades out of human skin that had tattoos on it !!.
Reply:I don't think so. But maybe. The Holocaust is already too horrible with out enhancements, but maybe these guys were that sick.





EDIT: The Honorable Rev. Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam once lamented the fact he did not have one of those lampshades.
Reply:No - it's a thoroughly discredited myth, along with the soap and lampshade stories.





I've decided to edit and update this answer to explain a little more what I mean and to provide some examples.





The Holocaust is a highly emotive subject and rightly so. However, to question CERTAIN PARTS of the account does not make a Holocaust denier or, indeed, an anti-semite. These seem to be, unfortunately, weapons to stop debate.





One has to accept that, in war, the first casualty is the truth and that, very often, negative stories about the enemy become more and more polarised. For example, in the First World War the Germans were portrayed as bloodthirsty "Hun", raping virgins and ripping the limbs off babies. The "enemy" was demonised and we were conditioned to accept any level of brutality against "the Hun" as acceptable and necessary.





To understand the account of the Holocaust, a little understanding of the prevailing politics of the time would be useful. Since the turn of the century, the Zionists (don't confuse with Jews) had been pressing the west for assistance to establish a homeland in the Middle East, based on what they regarded as their ancestral lands. They wanted European Jews to emigrate to this new land and form a new nation - Israel. Unfortunately, european Jews didn't want to leave their lives, businesses etc and wern't interested in the idea. I bet you didn't know that once the Nazi's came into power in the 30's the only other political party allowed in Germany was the Zionist Party. Why? They both had the same aims - the repatriation of the Jewish population.





Fast forward a bit. In November 1942, Rabbi Michael Dov-Ber Weismandel, a Jewish activist in Slovakia approached Adoph Eichmann's representative, Dieter Wisliceny and queried how much would need to be paid to save ALL the European Jews.





The answer came back that for a mere $2 million they could have all the Jews in Western Europe and the Balkans. Weismandel sent a courier to the World Zionist Organization in Switzerland. His request was refused. The official, Nathan Schwalb sent enough money to save only Weismandel and his cadre. He wrote:





"About the cries coming from your country, we should know that all the Allied nations are spilling much of their blood, and if we do not sacrifice any blood, by what right shall we merit coming before the bargaining table when they divide nations and lands at the war's end? ....for only with blood shall we get the land." Bet you didn't know the Germans were happy to "sell" all those people. They could have been saved but the Zionists wouldn't pay. They new that their actions condemmed millions to death but also new that at the wars end, those who survived would be desperate to escape to safety.





We all know about the ensuing carnage, but where did the figure of six million come from? It came from a RUSSIAN ZIONIST. As a a leading member of the Soviet-sponsored Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee, Ilya Ehrenburg appeared at fund-raising rallies in the United States, raising support for the Communist cause while displaying fake bars of soap allegedly manufactured by the Germans from the corpses of dead Jews.





The crowning achievement of Ehrenburg's career came on December 22, 1944, when he became the first person to mention the figure of Six Million Jewish victims of the Nazi's and then proceeded to introduce that figure into Soviet propaganda, and which later became the "accepted" figure throughout the western world. Notice that figure was mentioned well before the war's end, whilst the killings were still going on.





I won't labour the point, but do you think it's possible that SOME of the "facts" of the Holocaust are residual propaganda, designed to demonise the Nazi's and drive the Jewish survivors to Israel, whose formation could now be justified by the very Nazi persecution and murders the Zionists knew would occour by their refusal to act?





History isn't always what you expect. I hope this small amount of information causes some of you to do some research and reach your own conclusions.
Reply:It seems unlikely that such minded German officers would have wanted to continually 'shake hands' with Jews, Gypsies of similar former camp inmates.
Reply:I don't think it's true about World War II but certainly in more ancient times it wasn't unheard of for the victors of various battles to commission clothing or mementoes made out of various body parts from the defeated.
Reply:No Jean-luc, it's not a myth, there is documented evidence of some Jews with tattoos who were lining up for the camps being taken out, shot in the head and their tattooed skin cut from their bodies, the skin was then treated and sewn together to make lampshades and other 'items of art'.


There is a book you should read. Published just after the war called the 'scourge of the swastika'. it's absolutely horrific.


Some of the things that the Nazi's did to the Jews are so taboo they are still not discussed, even to this day.


You must remember that the Nazi's considered the Jew's, amongst others, to be 'sub-human'. Therefore they were treated worse than animals, their lives simply did not matter to many of the Nazi's who ran the concentration camps.
Reply:Yes!The National Archives in


College Park, Maryland, has identified "a human skin lampshade, or part of


one," from the Nazi concentration camp at Buchenwald. The National Museum of


Health and Medicine holds three pieces of tattooed human skin, also from


Buchenwald.


Ilse Koch (her first name has two syllables; her last name sounds like the


Scottish "loch") is the most famous of all Germans accused of having


committed atrocities during the war. She was the wife of the commandant of


the Buchenwald camp. She was twice convicted in post-war trials, once by an


international court and once by her own country. The chief charges against


her were cruelty to inmates, including murder, but what she is best-known


for is the making of human-skin ornaments, including the lampshades of


which we've all heard.





It's exceedingly well-documented that such ornaments did exist; there's no


question but that someone made them out of human skin. When one can see a


book whose cover is tanned skin with a decorative tattoo on it, there's


little question that the skin was that of a human being. If one has any


doubt as to the origin of the substance, one should examine the forensic


report conducted on some of the skin. It concludes, based on microscopic


examination and the placement of the nipples and navel, that the skin was


certainly human.





Various Holocaust-deniers, however, have attempted to cast doubt upon the


existence of this skin, and upon the guilt of Ilse Koch in particular.


Arthur Butz writes:





The tattooed skin was undoubtedly due to the medical experiment role


of Buchenwald. As


remarked by [Christopher] Burney [a former inmate], when a Buchenwald


inmate died the camp


doctors looked his body over and if they found something interesting


they saved it. It is fairly


certain that the collection of medical specimens thus gathered was


the source of the tattooed skin


and the human head that turned up at the IMT as "exhibits" relating


to people "murdered" at


Buchenwald.





In 1948 the American military governor, General Lucius Clay,


reviewed her case and determined


that, despite testimony produced at her trial, Frau Koch could not be


related to the lampshades


and other articles which were "discovered" (i.e. planted) in the


Buchenwald commandant's


residence when the camp was captured in 1945. For one thing, she had


not lived there since her


husband's, and her own, arrest in 1943. Also her "family journal,"


said to be bound in human skin,


and which was one of the major accusations against her, was never


located, and obviously never


existed.





Already we have two explanations of the human-skin ornaments. It is


interesting to note that they are mutually exclusive. On the one hand,


according to Butz, the ornaments unquestionably did exist, since tattooed


skin was produced at the IMT, though it is "fairly certain" that the


"medical specimens" were simply cut from the corpses of inmates who died


naturally. On the other hand, the ornaments were "planted" by the Allies.





Butz can't have it both ways. He can claim that Ilse Koch is innocent


because the ornaments came from inmates who died of natural causes and not


murder; or, he can claim that the ornaments were forgeries, planted by the


Allies to incriminate the Nazis. To claim both is ludicrous. Yet this is


exactly what he does.





Butz's book was one of the earlier attempts at Holocaust denial, and later


efforts would refine it to a great degree. Such refinement is clearly


demonstrated by following deniers' claims about Ilse Koch.





In fact, in the same year that Butz's book was published, 1976, General


Lucius Clay gave an interview at the


little-known George C. Marshall Research Foundation, in which he indicated


that he believed that the human-skin ornaments were not in fact made of


human skin, but rather of goat skin. Mark Weber, now the Editor of the


Journal of Historical Review, became aware of this interview some years


later, after Clay had died (in 1978). He obtained a transcript, with the


aid of Robert Wolfe of the National Archives, now retired, who incidentally


is strongly opposed to Holocaust-denial. In 1987, Weber published his


findings in an article in the Journal of


Historical Review.
Reply:I don't know about that but I do know in one of the Concentration Camps the wife of the commander of the camp use to use tattooed skin of the victims of the camp to make lamp shades.
Reply:it is a fabrication along with lampshades and soap. Some historians are even starting to question the mass extermination of jews and even the figure of 6 million killed


see zundelsite.org if curious
Reply:doubtful,but who knows there were many atrocities from both sides in WW 2. i have seen pics of americans wearing necklaces of strung together japanese ears and pics of GIs holding decapitated japanese heads. war is hell
Reply:I heard that several were ordered, but more has sick jokes than for real use. I do know for a fact that hair from jews was used has filler in the seats of Mercedes
Reply:Submariners supposidly had socks made out of jews hair.


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Reply:When the Germans started killing people wholesale they also took everything of use. Besides their teeth, glasses, hair, and skin. If someone had an interesting tattoo they would use the skin for lampshades and other things. They kept their clothes, shoes, any personal belongings. If you visit one of the concentration camps you can see this.
Reply:No. I am a collector of German WW2 memorabilia and I have never seen anything like uniform items made from human parts.


Officer gloves were made from Doe skin, wool, or silk. Nothing else.
Reply:That is called wartime propaganda. Like the one doing the rounds during the invasion of Iraq that Iraqis hate black people. All complete tosh.